odd queston: locating the steeper grades, or "is there an easier way round these mountians?"

[pyotr filipivich]

That is just the latest in a series of questions

Is it possible to find out what sort of grades one has to climb in
order to make the pass? Earlier this month I made a "short" jaunt,
which involved a serious mountain pass. Kind of cuts into the average
speed when S&T is figuring you can do 70 (when I top out at 65 for
economy sake) all the way to Culver City, never mind the several 3000
plus feet passes in the middle. Which I seem invariably to hit the
top at 45 mph.

Which is why I am wondering if there is any online resource for
finding out what the climbs are like when crossing a mountain range?
Like seeing if it might be no worse to take the "long" but flatter
way?

tschus
pyotr
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[kolldata]

Garmin USA Topo plus Nroute does elevation profiles as USA Topo alone
with Garmin Mapsource.
On S&T, zooming in may show a continuous series of curves and
switchbacks indicating the grade is significant or the road closely
follows a hillside. Topozone online may do similar.
If S&T does not show an alternative route at a zoom level consistant
with that STATE's highway systems but show a route at a higher zoom
level then consider the higher zoom level route asmore difficult.

I finished crossing the mtns from Redding, CA down the Platina then
over to Garberville the backway. Mille ! Not on the State Route zoom
level.

[kolldata]

right. check that route with S&T. The county road to Garberville is on
a higher zoom level.

[kolldata]

first ask, Redding to Garberville then add Platina Road, CA.

NOT a lesurely 2 hour drive

[pyotr filipivich]

Post by kolldata
Garmin USA Topo plus Nroute does elevation profiles as USA Topo alone
with Garmin Mapsource.
On S&T, zooming in may show a continuous series of curves and
switchbacks indicating the grade is significant or the road closely
follows a hillside. Topozone online may do similar.

S&T doesn't give the data, and a close look at the route over the
pass doesn't show a lot of switchbacks or the like on I-5. This is
the interstate, so they could just carve a "straight" route up the
mountains. (But if you take a look close up, you'll see "old Hwy 99"
- and that does twist around like an arthritic snake.)

Post by kolldata
If S&T does not show an alternative route at a zoom level consistant
with that STATE's highway systems but show a route at a higher zoom
level then consider the higher zoom level route asmore difficult.

No such luck. The only reason I know about the Willamette Hwy/Rt
58 to K-Falls was I took that route for other reasons some decades
ago. Checking S&T - it is 30 miles shorter to Reno from Salem via
the Hwy 58 route (but 8 minutes longer) than going over the Syskus.
Selah.

Post by kolldata
I finished crossing the mtns from Redding, CA down the Platina then
over to Garberville the backway. Mille ! Not on the State Route zoom
level.

[kolldata]

IF you know where the imaginary route is then clicking the empty space
then clicking zoom in should bring up a road ?
I assume the road software trackers eat antique byways for breakfast.
Is there a State Forest or company nforest ? Proximity prob assures a
road safe and straight enough for log trucks.
There are rules-
if you crash no one will find you
you are not alone. Drivers live there and survive but may not see you
assuming no else drives there-which is true. Unseen intersections.
On this trip doing a comfortable 25-30 on the left with the right side
occupied with a 300 foot cliff buming alone in a Ford E250, I was
passed by a small sedan. Off course I was watching the mirrors for
passing cars and adroitly let her by. Moron. Hey, blow the horn once.
Animals may be seen. On one very nice high speed mountain climb near
the border we found a grazing cow way up in the clouds. Recently a WA
tropper ran into the moose.
Bicycles.
One of the great pleasures here is finding no road after 35 miles or
I'm sure 135 miles or with no bridge or .5 lanes against the 400 foot
cliff and the downed tree. Fords are fun.
Then there's the rally nut traveliiinnnnngg in the opposite direction.
Drunken hunters and fishermen. Ditto logtruckers.
Visit the braggarts at Land Rover's club website.

[pyotr filipivich]

Post by kolldata
IF you know where the imaginary route is then clicking the empty space
then clicking zoom in should bring up a road ?
I assume the road software trackers eat antique byways for breakfast.
Is there a State Forest or company nforest ? Proximity prob assures a
road safe and straight enough for log trucks.
There are rules-
if you crash no one will find you
you are not alone. Drivers live there and survive but may not see you
assuming no else drives there-which is true. Unseen intersections.
On this trip doing a comfortable 25-30 on the left with the right side
occupied with a 300 foot cliff buming alone in a Ford E250, I was
passed by a small sedan. Off course I was watching the mirrors for
passing cars and adroitly let her by. Moron. Hey, blow the horn once.
Animals may be seen. On one very nice high speed mountain climb near
the border we found a grazing cow way up in the clouds. Recently a WA
tropper ran into the moose.
Bicycles.
One of the great pleasures here is finding no road after 35 miles or
I'm sure 135 miles or with no bridge or .5 lanes against the 400 foot
cliff and the downed tree. Fords are fun.
Then there's the rally nut traveliiinnnnngg in the opposite direction.
Drunken hunters and fishermen. Ditto logtruckers.
Visit the braggarts at Land Rover's club website.

Going way off the pavement is not my desire.

I'm tarrying to find a "better" or "flatter" route, something
which goes around the mountainous areas, and not right through them.

[kolldata]

Post by kolldata
IF you know where the imaginary route is then clicking the empty space
then clicking zoom in should bring up a road ?
I assume the road software trackers eat antique byways for breakfast.
Is there a State Forest or company nforest ? Proximity prob assures a
road safe and straight enough for log trucks.
There are rules-
if you crash no one will find you
you are not alone. Drivers live there and survive but may not see you
assuming no else drives there-which is true. Unseen intersections.
On this trip doing a comfortable 25-30 on the left with the right side
occupied with a 300 foot cliff buming alone in a Ford E250, I was
passed by a small sedan. Off course I was watching the mirrors for
passing cars and adroitly let her by. Moron. Hey, blow the horn once.
Animals may be seen. On one very nice high speed mountain climb near
the border we found a grazing cow way up in the clouds. Recently a WA
tropper ran into the moose.
Bicycles.
One of the great pleasures here is finding no road after 35 miles or
I'm sure 135 miles or with no bridge or .5 lanes against the 400 foot
cliff and the downed tree. Fords are fun.
Then there's the rally nut traveliiinnnnngg in the opposite direction.
Drunken hunters and fishermen. Ditto logtruckers.
Visit the braggarts at Land Rover's club website.

        Going way off the pavement is not my desire.
        I'm tarrying to find a "better" or "flatter" route, something
which goes around the mountainous areas, and not right through them.
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VW bus ? State highways over rolling farmland are fast but not quite
as fast as the longer interstate. 4 stop lights eat up a lotta miles.
Try Google Earth.